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Just stopping by for a quick brain dump

The past week has been hellacious. Between my home state of NC voting ignorance and hate into the state constitution and the Colorado GOP leadership acting like children, taking their ball and going home rather than put civil equality to vote in the House, my head contains brain stew.

North Carolina. WTF? The majority should NEVER vote on the rights of a minority. Ever. Because ignorance and fear breeds like rats, cockroaches, and fleas. Spreads like a cancer. And as I’ve said before, you can’t fight the morons with logic. They have no logic or reason supporting their views. But the BEST part? The fact that the majority of people who voted for Amendment One have no idea that beyond banning gay marriage, it wipes away existing recognition of non-marriage relationships like domestic partnerships and kills the possibility of civil unions in the future. Same shit – preachers, NOM, Focus on the Family – they “top line” it for the masses without telling them the truth. And the sheeple eat it up. Can’t wait until one of their kids, living in sin with her boyfriend, needs domestic violence protection only to be told her situation doesn’t qualify as domestic abuse b/c they aren’t married. Suck it.

Colorado – If I decided I just didn’t want to do my job, I’d get fired. Maybe in November we’ll be able to have a mass firing of our current legislators. Like school kids, they put off the chores they don’t want to do until the last week of work. Well, the last 3 days – not even a full freakin’ week. And like a spoiled little brat, the Speaker of the House refused to let the civil unions bill go to a vote. First, he and his GOP buddies tack on a couple of “out clauses.” Really? If a church, organization, or even individual has a moral objection to recognizing a civil union, they and “opt out” of obeying the law and discriminate anyway?? What an idea. How’s this? I have a moral objection to ignorance so does that mean I can discriminate against all the bigots who keep trying to suck my rights away?

This past week I’ve heard enough Bible quotes to kill a cow. And in environments where the Bible shouldn’t even be mentioned. Why are members of Congress using Bible quotes to justify their positions for or against legislation? WTF? The next person who comes near me with a Bible is liable to have said book taken from them and used to beat some sense into them. I’d say to beat them senseless, but you can’t lose what you don’t have. So there. I’m not advocating violence but I see this as a humanitarian act of necessity. Like finally putting down the family dog after years of ignorant suffering.

Your religion is your choice. Stop trying to rule the country based solely on your beliefs. You’re not always right. Actually, most of the time you’re wrong. Wrong in your interpretation of your holy book, wrong in your judgement of others, and wrong in your attitude of entitlement. This country was NOT founded as a Christian nation. Freedom of Religion asshole. All that “Under God” and “In God We Trust” was added in the 1950s thanks to McCarthy and the Red Scare. I be someone in NC thinks they won’t get hit by a hurricane now that they’ve put us homos in their place. Can’t wait to see how that turns out.

I could go on, but this was suppose to be a quick brain dump, just so I can sleep without having vocal outbursts.

I probably won’t get any comments on this, if anyone even reads it. Whatever – but don’t bother leaving me any of your Bible verse crap. I don’t want to hear it, it has no place in a secular discussion about civil liberties and government.

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Same ignorance, different website…

It’s a dangerous thing, to find a news story concerning gay rights or marriage equality and click on the “Comments” section.  If you’ve done it once, you pretty much know what to expect.  There will be a multitude of comments, pros and cons.  Every now and then, you’ll find one with a genuine open mind or honest question, but for the most part, those of us who enter the zone do so armed for a battle of wills and wits.

Inevitably, there will be the Religious argument against equality.  Bible verses quoted (out of context and cherry-picked of course), and plethora of the following words: sin, hell, abomination, tradition, deviant.  Someone will always pose the question equating same sex marriage with marriages with children, animals, even inanimate objects.

I’ve seen some familiar names around, and familiar responses, but I’ll confess it is exhausting to go from forum to forum trying to battle ignorance one moron at a time.  The most frustrating thing for me is the religious argument against  same sex marriage.  No matter how much Christians want to squawk, the United States is not a Christian nation.  We can argue whether or not the Founding Fathers where Christian, and even how many times the word “God” is used in the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, National Anthem, our currency, etc but the use of the word “God” does not default to being a Christian “God.”  Even if it did, there is no singular view towards homosexuality within the Christian religion, so why do the Fundamentalists think they get to make all the rules?  The Constitution and Bill of Rights are secular documents, so as soon as you use the Bible as the sole justification for your position, your argument is moot in the eyes of the law.  But somehow those who have no other support for their opinion just don’t get it.

Reading through the comments, it becomes clear that the majority of intelligent, logical, well-written entries are in support of equality.  Those touting the religious argument can get down right pissy if you actually have support for your comments.  Take this exchange from the HuffPost article on Rick Santorum’s pledge to annul all gay marriages once elected President:

Works well in all the other countries where they have gay marriage..­nuf’said!!
          Argentina, Canada, Belgium, Netherland­s, Norway, Sweden, Spain, South Africa, Mexico, Portugal, United Kingdom,
Hungary, Ireland

     While civil unions giving equal treatment under the law might be acceptable in my mind, I do not support the definition of
“marriage” being changed from one man and one woman. My view may be a bit more liberal than the mainstream­, but it’s my
view and I’m entitled to it. Why can’t people just have their preference­s and keep them to themselves­. Oh, and BTW, a list of
     liberal degenerate nations does not a consensus make.

           All I did was answer your question about which countries currently allow same sex marriage. Is that the sole criteria you use
to determine whether or not a country is “degenerate”?
Kaycey351 sounds like she assumes there are no current countries that recognize same sex marriage (or have civil unions or partnerships that do have the same rights as marriage).  Why so defensive when I answered your question?  Perhaps you’re just pissed off because there are countries more progressive than the U.S. and they are alive and well.  Kinda throws a kink in the other argument the religiosos are so fond of, listing all the societies that accepted homosexuality that fell, were conquered, or otherwise destroyed. (Sodom and Gomorrah anyone?)
You cannot use logic to argue with someone whose only support for their position is based on religion.  Faith, such a huge part of religion, requires the suspension of logic.  Faith requires belief when there is a lack of evidence or fact, and in some cases when there is contradictory evidence.  It is akin to debating someone whose only statement is “Because I said so.”  But we keep trying because there is always the hope that someone with an open mind, capable of thought and logic, will come across the discussion and actually learn something.
Hope springs eternal.
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